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Vinyl's Comeback

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:02 pm
by Fryin' Bryan
Last night I saw 1 album for sale at BEST BUY. It was Viva La Vida by Coldplay. No I didn't buy it. I am just shocked Best Buy is carrying vinyl again. I know Walgreens isn't gonna stock 45's again but most of the major releases will be on wax again friends. Lots are now but we'll start seeing them at Target and Wal-Mart in the not too distant future.

Very cool.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:51 pm
by Matt The Cat
That's great news, Fryin'.

I finally got the new Conor Oberst LP. What'd ya think? I dig it. The music is way more upbeat than general Bright Eyes albums, but the lyrics are still dark as night. Very cool. There's even a few "sing-a-long" type songs on there. WOW! And the vinyl pressing is top notch too.

-MTC

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:40 pm
by Fryin' Bryan
I think that record is phenomenal. His style is varied throughout. This could be his best work to date. I Don't Want To Die In A Hospital is killer, really upbeat tune about sad subject matter.

That's my hometown hero.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:08 pm
by TheNorm
Conor Oberst !!! Well... I listened to the whole album and with the exception of "Valle Mistico (Ruben's Song)" I was able to listen with "interest". Reminded me of a modern day Bob Dylan. I wouldn't buy the CD (much less the vinyl version) but I was never a Bob Dylan fan.

What I did buy was Simply Red's new CD "Hucknall Tribute to Bobby" which is as you know Mick Hucknall's covers of 12 Bobby Blue Bland songs. I am guilty of enjoying it immensely. Forgive me NightProwlers, but it sounded really good and I'm sure Bobby Blue Bland approves.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:07 am
by Fryin' Bryan
I like Bob Dylan's music but it is better when he doesn't sing it. His voice just gets on my nerves.

As far as the cd vs vinyl, I always buy vinyl if it is available. Some of the new vinyl comes with a "good" mp3 download of the album. Black Keys newest Attack and Release came with a cd of the album, can't get much better than that. Worse case scenario I have to do a needle drop.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:38 pm
by Matt The Cat
I agree. I'll always buy vinyl before I ever think about buying the CD. I wanted the new Old 97s album and when it came out, it was a CD only release, so I decided not to get it since CDs sound so horrible these day (yes, the quality of CD mastering has hit rock bottom since the MP3 was invented and now labels want to push the CD mastering volume to the max of zero db). BUT THEN, they released it on vinyl, so I'm a happy cat again.

Warner Bros is releasing most of their new vinyl titles with a CD enclosed. I got the Mudcrutch (Tom Petty) LP and it sounds awesome and came with an audiophile CD (not compressed like all other CDs are) and the new Rilo Kiley LP also comes with a CD as well.

Good times!

Viva La Vinyl!

MTC

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:47 pm
by Fryin' Bryan
Speaking pushing the volume to 0db...and I know this is far from 50's material...but the new Metallica is shamefully bad. I dig the music but the mastering is horrendous. The vinyl isn't any better, which is often the case sadly. I really don't understand what is up with this competition to see who can make the loudest cd!

So that Mudcrutch record is good?

I also read somewhere that some of the major labels are thinking of rereleasing some of their older catalog on lp as there is a market for it again.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:32 pm
by TheNorm
I must say, I admire your audiophile craving. I once shared your obsession for “pure” sound quality and dynamic range appreciation but I always felt like I had to try and convince everybody else that these audible subtle “improvements” really made the difference in overall sound quality. I still occasionally yearn to be in that state of mind. However, I have learned to appreciate the simple things and not get too hung up on compression ratios or mastering techniques. I do agree that even my ears can discern poorer quality mastering these days with some of the new CDs. I would love to own a Macintosh MA2275 integrated amp and still have hopes that I will once my personal sh*t gets sorted out. Until then I will have to be content with my modest NAD amp, NAD CD player and PSB Stratus Gold speakers. (I still own two turntables.)

As you may know, I had to part with my vinyl collection, which I started collecting some fifty years ago. (About a third in near mint condition.). I did have Tom Petty’s Heartbreakers Audiophile LP and enjoyed it.

When I read your (Matt & Bryan) posts I can only drool, but it ain’t so bad. Just ask your dad.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:37 am
by Matt The Cat
NAD stuff is not so bad, Norm (especially the pre 1997 amps). I used an NAD 312 integrated amp before steppin' up to the McIntosh MA2275. I've heard a lot of people complain about the newer NAD equipment, but my 1995 NAD amp lasted me for over 12 years with no problems whatsoever and I always felt it had a nice "warm" sound for transistors. Be thankful you don't have tubes, man. I've become obsessed with the nuances between tube types.

We audiophiles are a crazy bunch. Sometimes I wonder how I can put my pants on and go outside everyday.

-MTC

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:42 am
by John From Madison
"We audiophiles are a crazy bunch. Sometimes I wonder how I can put my pants on and go outside everyday."

You are correct and sometimes I don't, but that's way too much information.

After talking with you yesterday, I was thinking about interconnects and speaker wire today. Maybe it's time to fool around with that stuff. I understand pure silver wire is something else.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:51 am
by Matt The Cat
Dude, don't get me started on pure silver.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:10 pm
by Pinball Wizard
NAD

My present preamp doesn't have a low level input for phono cartridges so I have an old NAD preamp that I use for records. Wherever I could, I replaced the stock aluminum electrolytic caps with higher quality units. It sounds fine to me.....I have no plans to replace it.

INTERCONNECTS

Several times I have seen people replace cheap cables with more expensive ones and marvel at the significant improvement. I have witnessed this myself several times. The problem is.....if they had just put back the old cables they would have also noticed an improvement. The act of removing & reinserting the connector rubs off a thin layer of oxide and the sound is greatly improved. IMO the great advantage of gold (plated) connectors is that they don't significantly oxidize & therefore sound excellent all of the time.

Most of the degradation in interconnects is in the connector, not the cable. If you want a cheap improvement, cut off the RCA plugs, open up your components and solder the cables directly onto the back of the sockets. No connector = perfect connector.

Listen Large!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:22 pm
by Fryin' Bryan
I have NAD stuff and love the sound/price ratio. If you love it loud and reliable then Adcom is the shit! 100% mosfet baby.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:34 am
by StL Rob
I saw the Police new concert album is on vinyl as well. I had to pick it up and look. It reminded me of those days as a teen.....hanging out a Peaches records and just digging through the lps for hours.


ahhhhh simpler days

PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:18 pm
by Wildcat Rudy
Oh man...Peaches. We used to have one locally. It was as big as a supermarket, and had one hell of a cutout bin! (That was the first place I'd ever seen or even heard of "cut outs"...bought a lot of rekkids for a buck!)

Still into vinyl here myself, but everything's packed away right now and stored 45 miles away due to our living situation.

Last new release on vinyl I bought was the album by the band Live, called "Throwing Copper". The inner grooves sound pinched, but I couldn't believe the vinyl was so quiet, and sounded pretty good.

Modern CD mastering is crap, but there are still some good discs out there. The digital brick wall compression on most modern releases is horrid...I get ear strain even listening at low volumes.